Comments on: Babylon, Babylon http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/ Pronounce the dot. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:42:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Scottica http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-257251 Scottica Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:01:00 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-257251 The last person I talked with about Babylon 5 with told me to check out this author, Zecharia Sitchin, he wrote a book called the 12th planet. Have you read any of his work? I'm enjoying it as sci-fi, but I think it might have been written as a historical/scientific account of alien gods inhabiting Earth, and creating man in his image. The rib from Adam was a real operation leading to cloning, and the immaculate conception caused by some aliens with sperm filled turkey basters... The last person I talked with about Babylon 5 with told me to check out this author, Zecharia Sitchin, he wrote a book called the 12th planet. Have you read any of his work? I’m enjoying it as sci-fi, but I think it might have been written as a historical/scientific account of alien gods inhabiting Earth, and creating man in his image. The rib from Adam was a real operation leading to cloning, and the immaculate conception caused by some aliens with sperm filled turkey basters…

]]> By: Editor B http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-255829 Editor B Tue, 04 Nov 2008 00:38:37 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-255829 Ouch. David, I had blocked that one from my memory. BTW, if you put your e-mail address in the form and click the notify box you'll get updates via e-mail when someone posts a new comment. That way you don't have to check back to see if there are new comments, plus eventually I think my spam filter will be retrained to identify you as a non-spammer, and I won't have to manually approve you every time. Your e-mail address is never exposed to the world or seen by anyone but me. Ouch. David, I had blocked that one from my memory.

BTW, if you put your e-mail address in the form and click the notify box you’ll get updates via e-mail when someone posts a new comment. That way you don’t have to check back to see if there are new comments, plus eventually I think my spam filter will be retrained to identify you as a non-spammer, and I won’t have to manually approve you every time. Your e-mail address is never exposed to the world or seen by anyone but me.

]]> By: David http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-255810 David Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:51:02 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-255810 Hey, Anne, don't send B any BSG spoilers. (The writers of BSG are masters of the unexpected.) BSG similar to B5?!! That's like saying chocolate ice cream is similar to shit. My favorite B5 episode: when Jack the Ripper shows up to torture the seashell-headed woman. Hey, Anne, don’t send B any BSG spoilers. (The writers of BSG are masters of the unexpected.)

BSG similar to B5?!! That’s like saying chocolate ice cream is similar to shit.

My favorite B5 episode: when Jack the Ripper shows up to torture the seashell-headed woman.

]]> By: Frank Schiavo http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-255756 Frank Schiavo Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:46:51 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-255756 I love B5, but I recognize it for what it is...grand space opera with more than a few references to it sources as varied as "Doc Smith", Asimov & Trek. Still I thought it worked well with its source material. I wish you guys had stayed through to the end of season 4, at least for the thrill of it...since it did get messy during the last season. BSG is more political, has lots to say about war and what it does to people and at times is far more depressing, but in its own way very good. I think maybe since the format for TV is to sell to the most folks, the ideas behind a lot of SF is not going to go over very well on TV in any broad way. Having said that, I'm not sure nich networks such as SciFi channel have done that much for the genre either. Regardless, like Anne I'm also not ashamed that I recommended it to you. Try Farscape next if you get a chance...it has much more fun with the settings of SF if you will and might be more your cup of Tea. I love B5, but I recognize it for what it is…grand space opera with more than a few references to it sources as varied as “Doc Smith”, Asimov & Trek. Still I thought it worked well with its source material. I wish you guys had stayed through to the end of season 4, at least for the thrill of it…since it did get messy during the last season. BSG is more political, has lots to say about war and what it does to people and at times is far more depressing, but in its own way very good. I think maybe since the format for TV is to sell to the most folks, the ideas behind a lot of SF is not going to go over very well on TV in any broad way. Having said that, I’m not sure nich networks such as SciFi channel have done that much for the genre either. Regardless, like Anne I’m also not ashamed that I recommended it to you. Try Farscape next if you get a chance…it has much more fun with the settings of SF if you will and might be more your cup of Tea.

]]> By: Anne http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-255749 Anne Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:24:22 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-255749 I also like BSG, but find that it sometimes falls shy of its full potential. Somewhere I have an essay I wrote to a fellow BSG fan about the huge, obvious similarities to Babylon 5-- including near copies of B5 episodes. I'll dig that up for you. I also like BSG, but find that it sometimes falls shy of its full potential. Somewhere I have an essay I wrote to a fellow BSG fan about the huge, obvious similarities to Babylon 5– including near copies of B5 episodes. I’ll dig that up for you.

]]> By: Editor B http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-255733 Editor B Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:48:29 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-255733 Oh no indeed, David. It's on, and let the chips fall where they may! Actually I'm just kidding. I've already cleansed the palate, so to speak. I watched <i>Blow-Up</i>. That movie rocks. Oh no indeed, David. It’s on, and let the chips fall where they may!

Actually I’m just kidding. I’ve already cleansed the palate, so to speak. I watched Blow-Up. That movie rocks.

]]> By: David http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-255726 David Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:35:07 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-255726 Re: your viewing of BSG, you've got to blanch your palate. Get all that B5 (and even Firefly) out of your mouth. If you're sick of sci-fi TV, wait until you're not. Re: your viewing of BSG, you’ve got to blanch your palate. Get all that B5 (and even Firefly) out of your mouth. If you’re sick of sci-fi TV, wait until you’re not.

]]> By: Editor B http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-255720 Editor B Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:20:18 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-255720 PS: Anne, I did discover the Lurker's Guide on my own and found it to be a helpful and fun resource... also a little alarming, but that's why they call them "fans." http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/ PS: Anne, I did discover the Lurker’s Guide on my own and found it to be a helpful and fun resource… also a little alarming, but that’s why they call them “fans.”

http://www.midwinter.com/lurk/

]]> By: Editor B http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-255718 Editor B Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:18:45 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-255718 Anne, for that matter I should note: I'm not sorry you recommended it either. I didn't hate Babylon 5. I just found it didn't rise to a certain level of excellence according to my personal aesthetics. But I am glad I watched it. And, yes, Firefly could be corny too. But corniness isn't all bad; in fact that was B5's most endearing trait. Cate, Battlestar Galactica is next up. David's non-stop advocacy (I almost said badgering) has worn me down. Unfortunately I've had my fill of science fiction TV so it will have to be some kinda good. Anne, for that matter I should note: I’m not sorry you recommended it either. I didn’t hate Babylon 5. I just found it didn’t rise to a certain level of excellence according to my personal aesthetics. But I am glad I watched it. And, yes, Firefly could be corny too. But corniness isn’t all bad; in fact that was B5′s most endearing trait.

Cate, Battlestar Galactica is next up. David’s non-stop advocacy (I almost said badgering) has worn me down. Unfortunately I’ve had my fill of science fiction TV so it will have to be some kinda good.

]]> By: Anne http://b.rox.com/2008/11/02/babylon-babylon/comment-page-1/#comment-255707 Anne Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:06:16 +0000 http://b.rox.com/?p=2175#comment-255707 Bah! Humbug! I still love Babylon 5 and I'm not sorry I recommended it. In retrospect, I should have also pointed you towards The Lurker's Guide to B5, which has analysis, notes inside jokes, and (crucial for me) makes fun of condradictory plot points. Very fun. I also own Firefly, and I love it, too, but I don't know that you can claim that it's free from corny dialogue, ridiculous or trite situations, etc. (With specific note to the cringe-worthy episode about the whores on a moon ranch.) If you take a Western, and move it to outer space, is it still a Western? Bah! Humbug! I still love Babylon 5 and I’m not sorry I recommended it. In retrospect, I should have also pointed you towards The Lurker’s Guide to B5, which has analysis, notes inside jokes, and (crucial for me) makes fun of condradictory plot points. Very fun. I also own Firefly, and I love it, too, but I don’t know that you can claim that it’s free from corny dialogue, ridiculous or trite situations, etc. (With specific note to the cringe-worthy episode about the whores on a moon ranch.) If you take a Western, and move it to outer space, is it still a Western?

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