Comments on: Round Two http://b.rox.com/2007/12/13/round-two/ Life in the Flood Zone Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:50:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Civitch http://b.rox.com/2007/12/13/round-two/#comment-156293 Civitch Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:38:14 +0000 http://b.rox.com/2007/12/13/round-two/#comment-156293 The point is that Victory has jerked the neighborhood around for months. They've lied, they've obfuscated, they've danced around basic questions. Not exactly acting in good faith. Regardless of your position on the demolition, there is a process that is supposed to be followed, and that process requires that demolition applications include redevelopment plans. Why on earth should the City Council let a big-time developer off the hook? We all know that they have some kind of a plan -they're just hiding it. The point is that Victory has jerked the neighborhood around for months. They’ve lied, they’ve obfuscated, they’ve danced around basic questions. Not exactly acting in good faith.

Regardless of your position on the demolition, there is a process that is supposed to be followed, and that process requires that demolition applications include redevelopment plans. Why on earth should the City Council let a big-time developer off the hook? We all know that they have some kind of a plan -they’re just hiding it.

]]> By: HammHawk http://b.rox.com/2007/12/13/round-two/#comment-156280 HammHawk Fri, 14 Dec 2007 16:19:51 +0000 http://b.rox.com/2007/12/13/round-two/#comment-156280 I'm afraid that Victory knows the system well enough to know that a "yes" isn't necessary for them to do what they want. It sucks, but I feel like every time a connected person or group wants to do something that sounds big, the city caves and assumes that the move is a vote of confidence in their fine work. Or, "Well, they've already invested so much time and money, we can't let that go to waste, so we'll make sure they follow the process next time." If it happens, I'll be pissed, and then I have to decide, if I really want to go to Target, do I boycott the one they put up in Mid City, or do I go to Dukeville and spend money in JP, which I typically try not to do? I’m afraid that Victory knows the system well enough to know that a “yes” isn’t necessary for them to do what they want. It sucks, but I feel like every time a connected person or group wants to do something that sounds big, the city caves and assumes that the move is a vote of confidence in their fine work. Or, “Well, they’ve already invested so much time and money, we can’t let that go to waste, so we’ll make sure they follow the process next time.”

If it happens, I’ll be pissed, and then I have to decide, if I really want to go to Target, do I boycott the one they put up in Mid City, or do I go to Dukeville and spend money in JP, which I typically try not to do?

]]> By: Anthony http://b.rox.com/2007/12/13/round-two/#comment-156217 Anthony Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:17:24 +0000 http://b.rox.com/2007/12/13/round-two/#comment-156217 It's going to get a much more receptive hearing in the City Council Chambers than they are in the HCDRC. Can you name one council member who is going to put the damaged state of a hospital that isn't going to be a hospital anymore above the potential jobs and tax revenue that is going to come with this development. Plus a chance to clean up some damaged warehouses in an industrial area? If you don't find development inherently evil the prospect that your constituents are going to get a brand new place to shop and get jobs and all of the tax revenue which will be flowing out of the place which aren't flowing out of it now... It's a mighty big "get" for a politician even if they can put up with the static from the opponents now. And let's be honest. Unless they get retailers completely out of step with the neighborhood, the people opposing them will be shopping there. It’s going to get a much more receptive hearing in the City Council Chambers than they are in the HCDRC. Can you name one council member who is going to put the damaged state of a hospital that isn’t going to be a hospital anymore above the potential jobs and tax revenue that is going to come with this development. Plus a chance to clean up some damaged warehouses in an industrial area? If you don’t find development inherently evil the prospect that your constituents are going to get a brand new place to shop and get jobs and all of the tax revenue which will be flowing out of the place which aren’t flowing out of it now… It’s a mighty big “get” for a politician even if they can put up with the static from the opponents now.

And let’s be honest. Unless they get retailers completely out of step with the neighborhood, the people opposing them will be shopping there.

]]> By: Jedd http://b.rox.com/2007/12/13/round-two/#comment-156138 Jedd Thu, 13 Dec 2007 21:20:43 +0000 http://b.rox.com/2007/12/13/round-two/#comment-156138 They were demolishing part of it today. They were demolishing part of it today.

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