Comments on: Victory (Not) http://b.rox.com/2007/03/31/victory-not/ Life in the Flood Zone Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:16:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: b.rox » Blog Archive » Framing the Issues on Our Terms http://b.rox.com/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103989 b.rox » Blog Archive » Framing the Issues on Our Terms Tue, 03 Apr 2007 16:38:33 +0000 http://b.rox.com/archives/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103989 [...] front page story in the Times-Picayune. That story really alarmed a lot of people. I saw it as a missed opportunity, but in retrospect, it was free [...] [...] front page story in the Times-Picayune. That story really alarmed a lot of people. I saw it as a missed opportunity, but in retrospect, it was free [...]

]]> By: Editor B http://b.rox.com/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103728 Editor B Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:44:50 +0000 http://b.rox.com/archives/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103728 Yes, Seung, I'll be there tonight. http://mcno.org/2007/04/01/victory-on-the-agenda/ Looks like I may speak on behalf of FOLC. Look for some intensive issue-framing from yours truly. Yes, Seung, I’ll be there tonight.

http://mcno.org/2007/04/01/victory-on-the-agenda/

Looks like I may speak on behalf of FOLC. Look for some intensive issue-framing from yours truly.

]]> By: Seung http://b.rox.com/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103725 Seung Mon, 02 Apr 2007 16:38:01 +0000 http://b.rox.com/archives/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103725 Looks like MCNO and FOLC may have a second shot at this. We will be at MCNO tonight, hopefully with the press, so that residents may begin the process to outline what any potential development should look like, and what it should definitely not look like. I talked to Daniel and he said there would be a couple of FOLC folks there. Are you going Bart? Seung Office of Councilmember Shelley Midura Looks like MCNO and FOLC may have a second shot at this. We will be at MCNO tonight, hopefully with the press, so that residents may begin the process to outline what any potential development should look like, and what it should definitely not look like. I talked to Daniel and he said there would be a couple of FOLC folks there. Are you going Bart?

Seung
Office of Councilmember Shelley Midura

]]> By: Puddinhead http://b.rox.com/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103666 Puddinhead Mon, 02 Apr 2007 13:30:26 +0000 http://b.rox.com/archives/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103666 "I also would have liked some explanation of those last few paragraphs about Katrina erasing barriers to entry. What does that mean? Zoning laws don’t matter?" I'm pretty sure what that refers to is that just about ANY proposed development investment in the city prior to Katrina was going to meet with so much resistance from either neighborhood organizations (the standard "it's already too hard to find a parking place", "the plans are out of scale and character for my neighborhood", and "this will bring the wrong 'element' into my neighborhood" arguments), some valid and some not-so-valid, whether the development was designed to meet all of the zoning laws or not. It still happens somewhat after Katrina (Wasn't there a condo building project planned for the fringe of the Warehouse District that was shelved because of neighborhood resistance even though I think the project met the zoning requirements of the plot of land it was designed for? As well as a hinted veiled threat of "neighborhood resistance" in order to shakedown Blaine Kern for cash in return for support for his Algiers project?), but I think they're speculating that when given the choice between living next door to a new project or next to tracts of boarded up homes and businesses, many residents will be more inclined to work with developers (there's that evil word again....) to get something closer to what they desire for their neighborhood rather than to flatly resist any redevelopment whatsoever. “I also would have liked some explanation of those last few paragraphs about Katrina erasing barriers to entry. What does that mean? Zoning laws don’t matter?”

I’m pretty sure what that refers to is that just about ANY proposed development investment in the city prior to Katrina was going to meet with so much resistance from either neighborhood organizations (the standard “it’s already too hard to find a parking place”, “the plans are out of scale and character for my neighborhood”, and “this will bring the wrong ‘element’ into my neighborhood” arguments), some valid and some not-so-valid, whether the development was designed to meet all of the zoning laws or not. It still happens somewhat after Katrina (Wasn’t there a condo building project planned for the fringe of the Warehouse District that was shelved because of neighborhood resistance even though I think the project met the zoning requirements of the plot of land it was designed for? As well as a hinted veiled threat of “neighborhood resistance” in order to shakedown Blaine Kern for cash in return for support for his Algiers project?), but I think they’re speculating that when given the choice between living next door to a new project or next to tracts of boarded up homes and businesses, many residents will be more inclined to work with developers (there’s that evil word again….) to get something closer to what they desire for their neighborhood rather than to flatly resist any redevelopment whatsoever.

]]> By: bayoustjohndavid http://b.rox.com/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103272 bayoustjohndavid Sun, 01 Apr 2007 14:01:20 +0000 http://b.rox.com/archives/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103272 If there's no way Mercy's going to reopen, I guess that something has to be be done with the site. Still, for months I've thought that the lack of the hospital was the main thing holding back the neighborhood's revival. I worked at the Magazine St. Cafe Roma when the mid-city location opened; it wouldn't have opened at all if not for Mercy, so it's not surprising that it didn't reopen. There's also several hospital related sites outside of the development area, that will remain vacant. But if nobody's going to open the hospital, nobody's going to reopen the hospital. Still, we're losing a major source of revenue for restaurants and stores, and bringing in more restaurants and stores. That would seem illogical. I assume Victory knows what it's what's doing, but if the ultimate plan is to put in another Walmart, that would be disastrous. The article didn't mention anything about tax credits, but if that's what makes the project viable, that's worrisome. Projects based on tax credits tend to be short term. That's something that hasn't been mentioned in the discussion of multi-unit hosing BTW. I also would have liked some explanation of those last few paragraphs about Katrina erasing barriers to entry. What does that mean? Zoning laws don't matter? If there’s no way Mercy’s going to reopen, I guess that something has to be be done with the site. Still, for months I’ve thought that the lack of the hospital was the main thing holding back the neighborhood’s revival. I worked at the Magazine St. Cafe Roma when the mid-city location opened; it wouldn’t have opened at all if not for Mercy, so it’s not surprising that it didn’t reopen. There’s also several hospital related sites outside of the development area, that will remain vacant. But if nobody’s going to open the hospital, nobody’s going to reopen the hospital.

Still, we’re losing a major source of revenue for restaurants and stores, and bringing in more restaurants and stores. That would seem illogical. I assume Victory knows what it’s what’s doing, but if the ultimate plan is to put in another Walmart, that would be disastrous. The article didn’t mention anything about tax credits, but if that’s what makes the project viable, that’s worrisome. Projects based on tax credits tend to be short term. That’s something that hasn’t been mentioned in the discussion of multi-unit hosing BTW.

I also would have liked some explanation of those last few paragraphs about Katrina erasing barriers to entry. What does that mean? Zoning laws don’t matter?

]]> By: Karen http://b.rox.com/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103126 Karen Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:30:08 +0000 http://b.rox.com/archives/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103126 Never ever help anyone you do not trust keep a secret. Never ever help anyone you do not trust keep a secret.

]]> By: Mark Folse http://b.rox.com/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103117 Mark Folse Sat, 31 Mar 2007 19:21:45 +0000 http://b.rox.com/archives/2007/03/31/victory-not/#comment-103117 Remember, the official city plan terminates the Lafitte Corridor at Jefferson Davis (at least several versions that I complained specifically about). The development need not be a bad thing, as opposed to starting at blight or a very high residential tower which the zoning would also permit, or so I understand. I have half a dozen worries, but I'l lay those aside for later. For now, I couldn't agree more. Keep in mind, however, how much leeway the city gives the mayor, and this fits in perfectly with his shadow cabinet of also-rans plans for the city. It was going to be the developer's story the first time out probably no matter what. I do think the story is unbalanced. Visualize what our architect sketched as an idea for development along the corridor. Then visualize Elmwood. There's an entire other side to this story that the quote from Janet does no justicet to. (Not her fault, but the reporters). He didn't go pass a lazy "and the neighbors said blah" instead of balance). Remember, the official city plan terminates the Lafitte Corridor at Jefferson Davis (at least several versions that I complained specifically about).

The development need not be a bad thing, as opposed to starting at blight or a very high residential tower which the zoning would also permit, or so I understand.

I have half a dozen worries, but I’l lay those aside for later. For now, I couldn’t agree more. Keep in mind, however, how much leeway the city gives the mayor, and this fits in perfectly with his shadow cabinet of also-rans plans for the city. It was going to be the developer’s story the first time out probably no matter what.

I do think the story is unbalanced. Visualize what our architect sketched as an idea for development along the corridor. Then visualize Elmwood. There’s an entire other side to this story that the quote from Janet does no justicet to. (Not her fault, but the reporters). He didn’t go pass a lazy “and the neighbors said blah” instead of balance).

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